a rick perry in texas and ideally maybe even a governor romney in massachusetts. they deal across the aisle. they deal with practical issues. they can help the party sort of see where the country is going and move ahead in a practical matter and take credit for it if the party is smart enough to take advantage of that. >> eroll, you're making the point. practicality, bipartisan thinking, nonideological thinking is the reason people elect republican governors so easily. they don't have to make a big ideological choice. there you have republican governor kasich, who, again, i say i like, giving a nonideological answer. i haven't thought much about it but, yeah, civil union sounds fine to me. it's a reasonable answer for a guy who hasn't given much thought to something. thank you. >>> up next, chris christie meets the press, the third grade press. literally. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ female announcer ] your smile. like other precious things that start off white, it yellows over time. fact is, when it comes to your smile, if you're not whitening, you're yellowing.